Continuing the discussion from Community badges:
Enterprise/professional people are much more serious than me but you have to pay them.
We me and @Jim are just community guys and we love such āchildishā things 
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you are obviously missing a point
this is the support community for an enterprise class o.s., not a toyā¦
think about meā¦ I know very well SME but, for some reasons, SME doesnāt fit anymore my needsā¦ I rappresent a group of people that have many SME server installs and I/we are testing NS to find a suitable migration path
I/we donāt want/need the enterprise payed supportā¦ I/we just want to rely on the communityā¦
well, I can frankly say that people I redirect here to have a look told me, litterally ālooks like facebookā
now, we wonāt migrate to NS because its community, this one, is not a good support pointā¦
what we saw (and weāre not the only, be aware of this) is a nice and funny place where chat and jokes are comparable, in quantity, to support topicsā¦ and thatās simply bad.
days and days to argue on a css fragment or to enable/disable new badges, and arguing and discussing about badgesā levels is quite (I repeat myself and other people) childish.
anyway, feel free to ignore (it wonāt be the first time) my observations/suggestions 
Theses badges are only to see if the gui is an occasional visitor, a regular visitor, or active in the community. No more.
As you do, you can tottally ignore this side, this will not change your perception of the community.
Perhaps is the landing page that give you this feelingā¦ A toy at the place of a tool.
What do you think about the ācategorizedā landing page? ( when you arrive in Discouse, click on ācategoriesā between ātopā and ābookmarksā)
Did you think itās more serious?
I never see landing pageā¦
I just come to community.netheserver.org and Iām inā¦
exactly what I do in any forum Iām subscribed inā¦ think about users that donāt want whistles and bells, just the contentā¦
landing page is fine, but if I (generally speaking) search for help, I will see it just one timeā¦
moreover, an user can find any contents here indicized from googleā¦ so, for example, it wonāt never see landing pageā¦
I (generally speaking) use (or want to) NS for money, not for funā¦ if I want to have fun with NSā guys, I just write a joke on FBās pageā¦
if you were a long time forum user you can understand what kind of poster you have in fornt of you just after 3/4 postsā¦ how he writes, how he makes questions or give answers, the way he arguments the question heās postingā¦
no need for badgesā¦ see minesā¦ (BTW, I havenāt ever seen them myself)ā¦ what do you guess from my profile?
and often, quantity has nothing to do with qualityā¦ you can be here almost all the days of your life but just be here to beg for features or just to ask or read (i.e. lurking)
or you can post 120 times in a week, posting just useless junkā¦
Whith your avatarā¦ You are a bad guy 
Iām agree about quantity and qualityā¦ But think about what make the difference: The difference is when you receive likes or not.
When you post a lot and receive likesā¦itās ok. You contribute with a certain feedback about quality 
If you post a lot, and receive nothingā¦ Perhaps you cam be a flooder 
sureā¦ but likes and other kind of stuff can be not realisticā¦
this is the first forum (and the forum term itself is not correct here) Iām subscribed in that has badges, likesā¦ exactly like on FBā¦
Iāve been a subscriber of smoothwall, proxmox, pfsense, m0n0wall, centos (italy) and centos official forumsā¦ forums are for supportā¦ there are indeed many of them related to funny things or something that is related to free time (sports, music, moviesā¦)
I can say that this is (should be) strictly related to āworkā, jobā¦ people come here not to laugh, but to solve their problems or give helpā¦
I feel inclined to say, this forum is too much like facebook, I donāt have time for facebook.
Also, this forum software is time consuming and frustrating to use, it doesnāt work like any other web page I deal with, itās so time consuming to work with the forum thatā¦ I donāt bother, like facebook, I donāt have time.
I want to see what going on, I want to try to help, but itās just a time sink and so I come for a few minutes, try to see if thereās anything worth engaging with, and go back to productive things.
Which really sucks because I want to work with the distro for the same reasons, it appears, Stefano does.
I am no discourse professional, but maybe it is possible to use the categories list and mark some categories as ānot wantedā in your own profile?
@alefattorini is such a setting possible? So the members can choose themselves if they wish to not see the āchatā and the ācommunityā categories of the forum.
To @zamboni and @fasttech I would advise to create a shortcut to the categories view. It will probably give a more āforum likeā feeling than the default landingpage that is currently used.
You can mute categories on your profile or use the categories view as you correctly suggested
This things are already in another topic
Continuing the discussion from What do you think about Discourse?:
I would suggest to simplify the top menu:
without ātopā and without āall categoriesā which are already in the hamberguer menu
I donāt like splitting the world into categories.
I talk seriously to my daughters at home, and like joking with my colleagues, at work. Itās always me 
I want to point out that our community is not a social network, like FB or G+, because of a ālikeā button. The product here are not people. The product here is NethServer and our goal is building a great server distribution.
Discourse is a powerful tool. I remember the time of Google Groups and Facebook for our project. It was less than one year ago, but itās one light-year far away!
@alefattorini keep up the good work!
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It for this reason that I made the suggestion:
To clear the upper menu and let people to choose why they want. ( latest / categories )
All the rest is in the hamburger menu.
I like our forum as is, but I understand too @stephano who would like a traditional categorized view
This way, everybody can be hapy.
I donāt know your daugthers, @davidep, but mine must arrange her bedroom each day otherelse the bedroom look like a battle camp with dolls and other toys litter at every corner 
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Just to continue the reply from @alefattorini.
@zamboni, If you want professional, then by all means go ahead and buy the enterprise licence of NS.
Then you will receive the āprofessionalā information from professional people inside NS team.
And just to mention, it seems that you have not used the rest of the āProfessionalā comunities, where ā¦ guess whatā¦ you have the āagreeā and ādisagreeā buttons on a topic/replyā¦ (the phrase āWas this usefull ?ā rings a bell? )
If you do not like Discourseā¦ donāt use it . If you do not like FBā¦ donāt use it. I do not like FB and donāt use it.
This is a comunityā¦ not a KBā¦ know the difference
BR
Bogdan
Hi guys
as I told to @alefattorini some days ago I still want to contribute to this community and to improve NethServer but when I log on Discourse I immediately get distracted.
I mean: I find the time (after my family, job etc.) to give my contribution, maybe a support an howto or whatever is useful but I start to read tons of speech that exhaust my time so at the end I have done nothing than reading.
Donāt misunderstand me, reading many of these speechs have permitted me to learn a lot but I havenāt been productive as I wanted to be.
The born of the wiki is a good thing but itās just a little step forward.
Iām agree with you @davidep but I prefer the principle of āCommunicating Vesselsā or if you prefer different rooms of the same house.
@zamboni I can understand your point of view about badges, likes, FB styles and so on but many people need to warm up themselves before they were actively part of the community and these ātoolsā are pretty useful IMHO.
Now I go to bed, itās late, I have spent all my available time to write this post instead of learning Perl and PHP, I will do it tomorrow.
Good fight! Good night!
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There are two kinds of discussion here, in community:
- strictly technical: new features, developments, support requests
- more generic: about community, collaboration, cooperation, team, people. use cases, story, tools, reviews.
Both are useful and both are full of ironic posts, jokes, pics, etc. It eases up the tone of the community a bit, you know, we havenāt to be serious all the time. We like [cows in the shell][1] and we like to have fun because weāre people, not robot.
Donāt you like it? Ignore, mute, whatever.
Please donāt judge useless or useful post or discussion, this kind of sentences is risky and scares people. Nobody can judge if a post is useful or useless, nobody. Every post is useful and rightful because comes from people and people deserves respect.
Remind, 100% of NethServer users are people, 100% of community members are people
100% of NethServer contributors are people.
If you donāt understand people you donāt understand business, and you donāt understand NethServer
[1]: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowsay
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good suggestionā¦ is there any other way to follow this distro outside discourse? 
why? I never bought āprofessionalā version of any OOSS product I used since nowā¦ I always foud āprofessional likeā support in the right forums
well, if you take a look at, example, proxmoxās forums, you canāt say itās not āprofessionalā
never used such a feature, neither on any kind of commercial site support (HP,M$ or other)
no problem at all with such kind of categorization, but, if you take a deep look, the second is predominant on the first oneā¦
sounds like āIf you create a system that any idiot can use, then only idiots will find it useful.ā (Cit. from Murphyās laws corollaries)
maybe, youāre right, good suggestionā¦
anyway, reading some posts in this topic, Iām not the only one that is saying that something is wrong here.
finally, is there any way to unsubscribe?