NS8 - SOGo continued?

SoGo in NS8 would be mandatory for me


This is really good news.
I’ll trust in you @stephdl, you can do it for us.
So there is nothing wrong installing a new NS7 with SOGo now again ?
Thank you so much.


I am currently asking myself this question. I would like to set up a server for various services for a club close to me and would like to use Nethserver again for this.

However, I’m very unsure at the moment whether I should still do this given CentOS 7’s “expiry date”.

I appreciate the dedication and skills of the developers, but is it realistic to get a stable NS8 (with migration option) by the CentOS 7 expiration date?

Incidentally, the preference here is clearly on using SOGo instead of WebTop.

@yummiweb due to my concerns about system overhead of application server temporarily named NS8 and due to the too close end of NS7, I stopped consider using products of this project for the next 18 months; NS8 will be green and I don’t like to play early adopter outside the “tinker time”, if something has go live, it needs to be reliable enough.

This kind of project (not specifically NethServer, which works really good for me, in “7” flavour) are quite falling apart (look for clearOS for another example), crushed between a lot of cloud applications saled as service, increased power costs, ubiquity of the use mandatory as default (computer, tablets, mobile, APIs connections) and… “internet is not more an option”, i can understand why.

If the environment you’re building is gonna consider NS7 as experience for… understand what they need and refine awareness and use of a service toolbox… Go for it. Really. Most of the things built on nethservers work really good. Mandatory not have IPv6 internet connection, or will be a quite hard bite to bite make the server available on internet.

Hello @yummiweb,

the problem with the expiration date is with every OS. For example, Windows 10, which will also go to the eternal hunting grounds in the course of 2025. I have complete trust in the developers of NS 8. After all, they were the ones who brought me away from various Windows Server operating systems to Nethserver with their work. However, I am currently skeptical about the handling of the new NS 8. If it is not as easy as NS 7, that would be a minus point.

Regards and a happy Eastertime…


This is our target right now and I’m very confident we will have it well before CentOS EOL.
With the stable, we are going to also release the migration tool for NS7.

Incidentally, the preference here is clearly on using SOGo instead of WebTop.

@stephdl already has some plans for it. :smiley:

Thank you for the hopeful information! So that’s my Easter surprise now. I wish everyone a happy Easter!

this is why the node and cluster environment is not based on kubernetes, the common idea at the time to start the project was to say it is too hard to take it in hand. The idea of something simple, of course with a learning curve, is the way how we code the product.

Just be confident.


I am… :wink:

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So I love NS8 everything I need works - great job!

The only thing I’m missing at the moment = SOGo

All attempts with Webtop fail because of the acceptance of the family!
Can we expect a timely implementation?

It would be great if you had a time horizon.

Best regards


I hope for the stable version of NS8 you will have SOGo, I have plenty other jobs, like debian12 and crowdsec, but when time will be available then we will have SOGo

I use SOGo at home even if I know that a lot of people love to use webtop


We need to give priority to webtop but SOGo will added to the software center as well, don’t worry.

We needed it in order to replace an existing module

I understand take a look at my anwser above


Hello friends!

NS8 is slowly getting really good, but I’m still missing one of the most important components:


How far along are the plans?
I can’t get my family interested in WebTop, sorry - there is no acceptance.

We are about to publish :slight_smile:




If SOGo is available as podman container, you can still tweak it around NS8 environment.

I have a green light to start to work on it, for now priority is low but when spare time is here, I will work on it


looking to find a container for SOGo, we love sogo at NethServer but SOGo is not much loved by packagers of container :frowning:

looking few hours today and I must admit that I have been not much so happy

  • tried to compile from source, I succeed but the size of the image is around 1,5 GB (not compressed).
    I would love to be close of @davidep when I will announce that :stuck_out_tongue:

  • tried to install from a private repository, I succeed but I am not sure we can trust him on the long run or in the quality of its rpm, and the size of the image is about 750MB: Index of /linux/debian

  • I tried with default sogo on ubuntu, but with 22.04 it is sogo 5.5.x, maybe we could try with ubuntu 23.10 but we will have upgrades only each 6 month :stuck_out_tongue:

  • I tried the nightly build of sogo, but I am not a big fan, I want stable code like I do for NS7

Each of this above was not good containers, huge, heavy, without output logs to stdout/stderr

Well I was not happy


Until I found …

based on archLinux, why, because they have the last package in their repository so we could expect stable code and tests among a community, we have stderr/stdout, we expose only 20000 for sogo and 20001 for apache, I think it is a nice container…I think we could start something on it…instead you have another idea



whoosh, its the hunting for when wanting to create a new module, Whoosh.

i can only imagine for the packages without any images

Well if the image size you build is tiny there is not much issue but I am concerned that if the size is huge then you have to think how to host it

SOGo wiil be long. I switched to another tasks. Now the db and the webapp are up but I must fight with ldap authentication

success to authenticate with active directory, failure with openldap

for now the configuration is not templated


finally we have our image on dockerhub, I forked a conatiner image and I pushed the change I need to our build

but but need to design it, for now it is a bundle, of course the database is in another container

  • pod: sogo
  • container mysql:mariadb-app
  • container sogo: sogo-app

it runs

  • memcached (could be in another container)
  • apache for reverse proxy (could be also another container)
  • cron (we need it on localhost I think)
  • sogo

for now I hosted it on dockerhub but I am not sure if we can host it on ghcr.io. BTW could we have a NethServer organisation to host container on docker hub, did you think on it @davidep