Why do I have to have a subscription to use services in the system?
Why do I have to have accounts for other places to do things in the system?
There was nothing about needing subscriptions for things in the details, the subscription is only for support and methods there of…
For me, the subscription is a way of rewarding the developers’ work in a modest way.
However, I am also not an advocate of the widespread ‘stinginess is cool’ mentality.
I have no objection with paying for things.
But when software should just work completely and only support and the like is what you have to have a subscription for, that is when I find issue with it.
Everything was supposed to be available… So why?
I don’t need enterprise repos, I don’t want automatic updates because updating means everything breaks because the newer NetSecurity doesn’t work. I don’t want a portal on someone elses machine. I don’t want a centralised controller. I don’t need support tickets. Community support is all that is needed as my queries and all aren’t really needing to pay some professional to do things. I pay for things that get done and complete. And I’m not paying 120,000 euros per year to get nothing that I would use. I don’t even make a 6 figure salary myself, so not like I can afford that.
According to the website…
Why buy a subscription?
A subscription gives you confidence that your NethServer deployment is backed by the best available technical expertise and with the support you need for your organization. It also enables exclusive access to the Enterprise repository, Automatic Updates, and monitoring tools.
I don’t need any of that.. yet there are things that are NOT in that category that are blocked in the software unless you have a subscription…
So why can’t I use these things?
What makes you think that support should/must be free? When you go to the hairdresser, you have to pay too. Sure… You still have the alternative of giving your scalp a trim yourself with a pair of scissors. But whether that will look good is another matter entirely.
@DRWhite Contrary to general opinion, nothing is really ever free in some way.
Someone is paying the bill somehow.
NEthesis, is paying to have nethserver built, and all the core apps, Webtop, Mail server, Nethvoice, etc that are running o the server, that you need.
You could have installed Linux bareBones, compile dovecot, postfix, and everything needed to have email working, install samba ad, or openladap, manually, and install freepbx, or asterix. etc, you get the Drill.
We at Genius.africa, are building Apps, base don OSS, versions to make it easy to host them on Nethserver. erpnext, for example, took us some 8 Months, to be running on NS. Postal About a Month, as well as some others.
All these Efforts, take time, and for someone to do that, for a period, someone has to be paying the bills somehow.
NEthserver support, is way of supporting the efforts of developemnt, and elts be real, everything works out of the box really easily. only reporting, and enteprise class features, for nethvoice, and webtop like PEC bridge, need support to be working.
so WHY COMPLAIN?
USe the product free if you want, support in community by, sharing lessons, supporting other newbises in the community, or otherwise, DOn pay for support if you dont need it, But what if the project was closed source, like windows, youd still have to pay for it, or chose alternatives. Hey if something serves you, support the way you can, and dont complain about the method, the developers are asking for support.
Gmail is free, but you pay for it with your data.
Why is this troll/”ai” bot being fed.
Stop responding to it.
We’re better than this.
Are you sure it’s a troll?
Of course not, I’m not a mod, but it certainly gives every tell. If it quacks …
If it’s really a real person … well, I’d probably suggest therapy for them, but I’d still have blocked it. This isn’t social media, no need for ragebait, we don’t need this here. I see no indication they’re here for productive contribution. But they’re certainly sucking up the time of some very patient, hard working folks here and I hate to see that. Some people can’t be helped.
I agree with you 100 per cent. But for a bot, it writes too ‘normally’ for my liking. But anyway…
Not what I was saying, so please stop putting words into my mouth. Please, READ what I wrote before you reply… If you aren’t going to read, then please stop replying.
Exactly right oneitonitram, but as per the previous person, you have completely missed what I said and just gone off several portions to make me seem like the bad guy.
Please, learn to read before you reply.
I’m neither a troll nor an AI.
The only AI that would be capabale of this level of communication would be MicroSoft’s AI from 2006. And that is not me, sorry.
If people keep annoying and frustrating me then the troll may come out of me and steal your left socks.
It’s the same story everywhere. Whether in the Australian bush or here in the northern hemisphere. You get what you pay for.
Hi DrWhite
I don’t get your problem. If you don’t need our subs don’t buy them 
In fact, with Personal, you have only that, no tickets or controller.
Have a good day
I don’t want a community controller or nethserver controller. I want no third party controllers at all.
The software is installed and that is what I wanted, but things that are installed say they need subscriptions to work, even though you say the subscription costs nothing.
So it should be working, but it isn’t.
I just don’t want a controller or third party to be sent my I formation in that way. I want to retain control, not ha e third party’s control things just because I have registered to have the community be able to control my server.
That is a complete invasion of my network, similar to other software that is already in the operating system that you have added that sends data outside the network without consent.
So if it is all free, why do I need to have people outside my system able to co trol it just to use some features that don’t have any relation to other people?
Hey mate
just a reminder that this community is here to help and support people who want to engage constructively.
If you’re going to stay, please keep the conversation respectful and positive so everyone feels welcome.
If this space isn’t what you’re looking for, that’s okay too — we wish you well elsewhere.
You sound completely confused.
Not confused at all. Subscription gives me a controller. A controller is someone that would control things, when I already have the UI as what I control the server with. I merely take it as what it says.