Rspamd grey filter holds the email

[MadPatrick]

NethServer Version: NS8
Module: Mail
OS Debian 12

Hi i’m trying to setup a NS8 server for mail behind my Nethsecurity firewall
I’ve a portfowarding for port 25 and 587 to to my NS8 server.
The domain is for mail.domain.com and sogo.domain.com are a reverse proxy to the IP of NS8

When receive a mail i see it in the rspamd menu and it greylisted

But it stays there forever.

I also see these errors

|16-8-2024, 19:13:14|normal|28|lua|56daa5|error querying dns \97.67.101.52.asn.rspamd.com\ on 127.0.0.1: server fail|
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|16-8-2024, 19:09:39|controller|27|map|5t8s4f|cannot resolve sa-update.surbl.org: server fail|
|16-8-2024, 19:09:39|controller|27|map|u9r7uu|cannot resolve maps.rspamd.com: server fail|
|16-8-2024, 19:09:39|controller|27|map|o33omj|cannot resolve maps.rspamd.com: server fail|
|16-8-2024, 19:09:39|controller|27|map|7n3qic|cannot resolve maps.rspamd.com: server fail|
|16-8-2024, 19:09:39|controller|27|map|yhcyzt|cannot resolve maps.rspamd.com: query timed out|
|16-8-2024, 19:09:39|controller|27|map|k8f914|cannot resolve maps.rspamd.com: query timed out|
|16-8-2024, 19:09:39|controller|27|map|1u5hdp|cannot resolve maps.rspamd.com: query timed out|
|16-8-2024, 19:09:38|controller|27|map|dyatkr|cannot resolve maps.rspamd.com: query timed out|
|16-8-2024, 19:09:38|controller|27|map|fdp86m|cannot resolve maps.rspamd.com: query timed out|

When i disable the greylisting in NS8, the email is let through

I’ve found this thread.

Cannot resolve maps.rspamd.com

I have the same problem on other server, but on port 53 (and not 10053) it is resolved fine. I think there are some problems with unbound service…

dig @127.0.0.1 -p 10053 google.com
;; communications error to 127.0.0.1#10053: connection refused
;; communications error to 127.0.0.1#10053: connection refused
;; communications error to 127.0.0.1#10053: connection refused

; <<>> DiG 9.18.28-1~deb12u2-Debian <<>> @127.0.0.1 -p 10053 google.com
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; no servers could be reached

What could this be?

[mrmarkuz (Markus Neuberger)]

@MadPatrick

But it stays there forever.

How long did you wait?

Greylisting soft rejects the mails if the sender is unknown and waits for redelivery of the sending mail server.

Check out Mail — NS8 documentation and Greylisting (email) - Wikipedia for more information.

@MadPatrick

I also see these errors

AFAIK they can be ignored.

@MadPatrick

I’ve found this thread.

It’s for NS7 that used unbound locally on port 10053 so the commands won’t work for NS8.

[MadPatrick]

I think i’d waited 20-30 minutes.
Not sure but i saw today with a new test an error with redis in the log line.
Also the historie is gone in rspam UI in NS8 after a restart of the server

When do the same in NS7 i can see the complete history from previous restarts

[mrmarkuz (Markus Neuberger)]

@MadPatrick

I think i’d waited 20-30 minutes.

Greylisting delays can be longer.

@MadPatrick

When do the same in NS7 i can see the complete history from previous restarts

I can confirm that after a container restart the rspamd history is lost. @stephdl do you see a way to make it persistent?

[stephdl (Stéphane de Labrusse)]

we mount the redis database to a volume, for what I see, I need to check why the history is not saved,

however the log are sent to the console

I guess if it is not a feature to prevent the container cannot grow to much

[stephdl (Stéphane de Labrusse)]

Ok I think we miss the history_redis in ns8 to store the history in redis

NethServer/nethserver-mail/blob/master/filter/etc/rspamd/local.d/history_redis.conf#L6

[stephdl (Stéphane de Labrusse)]

Redis history module

[MadPatrick]

@stephdl

Ok I think we miss the history_redis in ns8 to store the history in redis

Sound like a bug found

@mrmarkuz

Greylisting delays can be longer.

Ok. i’ll keep it in mind.
I always thought delay was a few minutes

[stephdl (Stéphane de Labrusse)]

I suppose bayes cannot work properly

[mail2@r3-pve state]$ podman exec -ti rspamd ash
/ # ls /var/lib/redis/
/ #

no rdb database file

[stephdl (Stéphane de Labrusse)]

this is an interesting bug

/ # redis-cli -s /run/redis/volatile.sock 
redis /run/redis/volatile.sock> keys *
1) "rrb4tefoxfy66csk4rcj1n"
2) "rs_historyr3-pve.rocky9-pve3.org_zst"
3) "rn2_default_1_default"
4) "rrphfas717eg3psej4o9fj"
5) "rryaczp9hfrhq5o4efcbks"
6) "rn_default_default_8ewekaep_0_ham_set"
7) "rs_clamav_da9d90318bd9b1db1f424e30750658c5"
8) "rs_clamav_442b42b64d75829301fd0d3ddd2e2f50"
9) "rs_clamav_64b06df3c42ace1bee03ebee426ce5ea"

so we log by default to volatile, obviously the first restart and everything is gone

[mail3@r3-pve state]$ systemctl restart --user rspamd
[mail3@r3-pve state]$ podman exec -ti rspamd ash
/ # redis-cli -s /run/redis/volatile.sock
redis /run/redis/volatile.sock> keys *
(empty array)

but like we can see we build the key with the fqdn of the server, it means if we move the module to another node the key will never be found because we build the key_prefix with the FQDN

/ # grep -srni  'rs_history' /etc/
/etc/rspamd/modules.d/history_redis.conf:17:  key_prefix = "rs_history{{HOSTNAME}}{{COMPRESS}}"; # Default key name template

I think we need to add --hostname=rspamd \ to the container and keep always the same hostname, or override a custom key_prefix without the hostname

[stephdl (Stéphane de Labrusse)]

probably fixed

[mail4@r3-pve state]$ systemctl restart --user rspamd
[mail4@r3-pve state]$  podman exec -ti rspamd ash
/ # redis-cli -s /run/redis/persistent.sock
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redis /run/redis/persistent.sock> exit
/ # ls /var/lib/
misc/    redis/   rspamd/
/ # ls /var/lib/redis/persistent.rdb 
/var/lib/redis/persistent.rdb

[stephdl (Stéphane de Labrusse)]

rspamd: history is lost after container restart

[stephdl (Stéphane de Labrusse)]

Hello mates

Could you please help use to verify this issue, the QA is available at

rspamd: history is lost after container restart

[mrmarkuz (Markus Neuberger)]

Thanks, it’s working as expected. The history is persistent now.

[stephdl (Stéphane de Labrusse)]

thank @mrmarkuz

[MadPatrick]

i’ve an other question which is a bit related to this topic

I see the following errors when i receive an email about DNS failed
The mail is not forwarded expect the “No action” tagged email