PHP 8.1 Upgrade?

Any chance the NS team can integrate PHP 8.1 and MariaDB 10.4 into an update? I am trying to upgrade to Joomla 5 and it requires these as minimum.

Also, how do I determine what version of mysql I am really using? I get the following at shell:

# mysql -V
mysql  Ver 15.1 Distrib 5.5.68-MariaDB, for Linux (x86_64) using readline 5.1

but my Joomla site’s backend on NS 7.9.2009 tells me I’m using v10.3.35-MariaDB.

In ns7, really few.

Hi @dalbring,
what modules are running at your Nethserver 7? Isn’t it possible to upgrade to Nethserver 8? Nethserver 7 is EOL.
@stephdl Which version is running at Nethserver 8?

I have Nextcloud and a (Joomla) website on my business’s NS7 box. The Joomla site provides videos I embed into a Squarespace site for our business, which is our official site. I think I had to install Collabera to open office docs in Nextcloud. If it were a smooth transition to NS8, that wouldn’t mess things up, I would attempt it. We do a lot of file exchanges with customers that I would rather not sacrifice. It’s a very convenient service we offer them. I could try making a second box with NS8 on it, but I would rather not have to go through all the steps it took to get to where I am with NS7. I thought I read a thread in a post recently that didn’t say a lot of good about NS8. Has it improved or has it still got bugs?

I have some customers with Nethserver 7. I’ll migrate them step by step. The first one I did works very well. The second one has a second disk for files, there I have a problem with the binding and the rights, but I will test anymore. If the migration doesn’t work, it’s no problem to go back to Nethserver 7. It’s only restarting some services. My friend @mrmarkuz helped me for that. If you have any questions, you can ask here.

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@dalbring

Hi Dirk

Read my post here about NextCloud on NS8…

I have already migrated almost all of my clients. One of the last ones will be either this, or the weekend after. We’re waiting for new hardware, a powerful Dell box to run Proxmox as Hypervisor.

If you have any detailed questions, you can PM me, I’ll be glad to help, advise and answer!

My 2 cents
Andy

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Thanks guys. So, am I understanding this howto right? You have to create a whole new server with an NS8 cluster on it first, as in, a whole new PC? It’s not simply upgrading, it’s literally migrating?

@dalbring

Hi Dirk

You did understand things right. Well, from NS6 to NS7 was the same thing, a migration, not an upgrade. And Microsoft also uses a migration, not a upgrade for their servers. No change here…

One of the reasons I prefer to use a decent Hypervisor like Proxmox. In the end I don’t need two servers… :slight_smile:

The basis of NS7 was Centos. After IBM bought RedHat, they pulled the Plug for Centos8, so the team had to find a fast and viable solution.

The option to use different Linux Distros is one of the results of the IBM / RedHat. Never again be locked in. Rocky Linux, Alma Linux, Debian all work. And you can easily migrate from one to another, at least in a VM environment.

My 2 cents
Andy

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Thanks for the input, Andy. I’ll have to look into that Proxmox. I mean, one server running a bunch of VM’s, while a cool idea, is kind of getting away from having a hard backup server. I’m slowly starting to implement a second server at our office, so I have a backup in the event one goes down. They’re not identical matches, mostly because they don’t have to be since it’s only for file exchange and video sharing.

So what?

A disaster recovery on almost ANY hardware within 30 minutes to get Proxmox up & running, then a restore.

No driver issues - nor hardware!

Planable disaster recovery…

And much more advantages.

My 2 cents
Andy

A consumer line is enough to use PBS (Proxmox Backup Server) to keep whole VMs including data daily off-site!

@dalbring It all sounds complex and time-consuming at first. But it’s not.

I have been running 3 nodes in a cluster for several years. Now one node has failed on the hardware side.

When restoring, the order and delivery of a replacement system takes the longest (Odroid H3+)

Setup and installation: 1 hour

Restore of the VMs from the daily backup on my NAS: 10 minutes.

And the servers are up and running again immediately.

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