New module for centralized backup


(Michele Bortolotto) #1

Hi ppl,

I’m trying to improve the Nethserver backup system, Duplicity frontend works good, but it suffers lack of functionality to centralized network backup and so on.
I’m looking for some alternatives that should have at least those characteristics:
a) web interface
b) multiple type of backup (full,incremental etc)
c) various backup support (disk,dat etc)
d) mail notification
e) enterprise support
f) whatever else… (good documentation for ex.)

i found some candidate:

a) bacula http://blog.bacula.org/
b) bareos http://www.bareos.org/en/
c) backuppc http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
d) urbackup http://www.urbackup.org


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Nethserver as a backup station
Community Acknowledgments
(Stéphane de Labrusse) #2

i vote +1 for backuppc, mainly because I use it :slight_smile:


(Michele Bortolotto) #3

backuppc has two problems : 1) it doesn’t support dat/ultrium backup
2) mail notification will be sent only in case of failure


(Giacomo Sanchietti) #4

I’d like something with Windows client support and hopefully with enterprise support.

My choices are bareos and urbbackup.


(Stefano) #5

backuppc can be scripted and so you can export a backup to external support
abut email: I fully agree with backuppc approach… you only need to know if something went wrong… :smile:


(Michele Bortolotto) #6

i use backuppc in production and yes i’ve scripted a tar backup for DAT storage cartridge :wink:


(Michele Bortolotto) #7

Giacomo urbackup is too windows oriented,and there are no rpm package (ok we can built them from tar)

My choices are bareos(if we can find a webui) and backuppc

edit

plus for bareos http://www.bareos.org/en/HOWTO/articles/relax-and-recover-with-bareos.html
but the webui seems to be not so easy to mantain&deploy https://github.com/bareos/bareos-webui/blob/master/doc/install/INSTALL.md

so really i don’t know… :smiley:


(Giacomo Sanchietti) #8

@AbsyntH take a look at this: https://github.com/bareos/bareos-webui

If it doesn’t fit our needs, let’s go with backuppc!


(Alessio Fattorini) #9

Ehi @AbsyntH this doesn’t seems a replacement/alternative for NethServer backup, buut a new module for have a centralized backup of other systems like windows workstation, Linux server, etc… Am I right?
Maybe you could rename the topic properly :wink: what do you think?


(jelle) #10

We’ve used Amanda (http://amanda.org/) for years. Works great, and encrypted :smile:
I’m not the expert on Amanda, my fellow admin is, so don’t ask me about the ins and outs. I just know we’ve never had any trouble decrypting and restoring a backup in the past years.
Only thing is… there is no GUI.


(Stéphane de Labrusse) #11

thinking aloud, I wonder if the bareos solution to use a client on the computer to back up is not too difficult to manage in an environment with many computers (does the client need to be updated sometime ???). Ok with a client, the backup will be faster. But in the meanwhile even if BackupPc gets a webUI and has no client to install, I’m not sure if the development is going well and it looks pretty old :smile:

A centralised backup module could be a nice project to do, of course more people are involved, more it is fun…the code is just an insignificant part


(Mark G) #12

What is the main goal with this backup? File+OS? Disk image/bare metal restore?


(Stefano) #13

there are tools to make massive deploy even on windoze client that runs on linux (see, for example, http://wpkg.org/Main_Page), so the client part installation is not an issue IMHO

if you need to backup windows client you can’t do it simply via smb/cifs, you need something running on the clients… with backuppc you can achieve it installing on the client pc a rsync server that supports VSS


(Stéphane de Labrusse) #14

I don’t know at all about backups with disk image, I use to backup only data, I believe that the OS will be reinstalled by the sysadmin. Moreover if a computer is infected by some malwares, the restoration with that kind of backup can restore infected files. Maybe with only data, the risk is less important and the size of backed data is smaller. That said, I do not work in IT, and my vision is not necessarily realistic.

Did you have some ‘Disk image/bare metal’ softwares in mind to propose ?


(Michele Bortolotto) #15

http://www.fogproject.org/ seems to be a good tool for centralized bare metal restore


#16

I would love a tool similar to Duplicati 2.0 (which unfortunately only works with windows).
The new storage format got rid of regular full backups, fantastic even for slow internet connections.
Only the first is a Full backup, then no more huge uploads.


(Filippo Carletti) #17

I’m using duplicity with incremental only backups. It works well. The only missing feature is the incremental refactoring to consolidate backups and throw away old sets.
I can share my scripts if you want to have a look.


(Phil Parker) #18

just installed webmin on port 10000, working around NethServer for the features it doesnt have, and trying for bacula, its on my to do list as of intergration thats another thing that may need to be worked out at a later time if its chosen. Everyone has the backup they like so its their choice not mine, i need to be able to backup to arrays so this why i installed this way. Some of the issues you mention are being worked on as we speak… I have done some things around NethServer without breaking the distro and i was very careful in doing so.


(Phil Parker) #19

Amanda is awesome but there is only an enterprise GUI available… which is disappointing and its not open source…


(Stéphane de Labrusse) #20

Not sure that webmin is a good idea…maybe we should try another gui.