Doubts about NS8

[davidep (Davide Principi)]

Hi Ralf, I’m happy to hear from you!

@flatspin

I’m sure, many doubts about this new system can be dispelled with a good explanation.

The UI purpose is to be self-explanatory! Details of the underlying system shouldn’t matter.

In fact you completed some tasks succefully, however you feel you didn’t grasp something… what makes you feel uncertain, what are your doubts?

Please feel free to ask as usual. First you ask, then the forum answers.

[flatspin (Ralf Jeckel)]

Hi Davide,

I think that the fronts between users and developers are hardened here a bit.

@davidep

The UI purpose is to be self-explanatory! Details of the underlying system shouldn’t matter.

Why make a secret of how the system works?
Yes, it is possible to install a system only through the UI.
But in my generation we are not pure users, like young people today. My daughters are 19 years old, and when I ask them how it works, the answer is: No idea, I don’t care, it just works. That is not my approach to a subject.
If Nethserver wants to have a good testing, then it needs IMO testers who understand the system and not only simple users who just try out if the installation is possible via the UI. And good testing is IMO mandatory for a stable product.
When I joined the community in 2016, I first learned how the firewall and templating system works. This was back in NS6 days and I was able to give some valuable hints, because I think I understood it.
If that is no longer desired, then the fun of testing is over.
That was the only way I could contribute, since I am not a developer, but I wanted to give something back.

And please don’t misunderstand me, but sentences like:

@davidep

First you ask, then the forum answers.

I feel as a bit rude. (Even if it’s correct. )

Just my feelings.

[davidep (Davide Principi)]

I’m sorry if my poor English sounds rude!

I suggest to follow this thread

Request:Developer QA Discussion Session. Video Meeting

Kudos to the @dev_team for their wonderful works and immense effort to Deliver a complete rewrite of a robust and wonderful Product for Tech enthusiast, Home Lab fanatics, Businesses and corporates alike. The Time and Effort you have put in to deliver on the project within and possible even before the promised timelines is great. ns8 is at a moment where, while alot of testing is being done to get the core product feature ready, we need to take note of the fact that nethserver has a wonderful …

If you’d like to talk about internals, do not miss it!

If you want to read about the internals: Home | NS8 dev manual

If you don’t know where to start, start from system requirements. Among them, I think Systemd is a good choice, because

1. We use it since NS7
2. It supervises the system and user sessions

If you feel something is not clear, feel free to ask and open a new forum thread. I cannot give a good explanation of NS8 without a question to start with.

[flatspin (Ralf Jeckel)]

@davidep

If you want to read about the internals: Home | NS8 dev manual

Thanks, Davide.

I think everything I wanted is there!
No secrets.
I only looked at the installation documentation. Sorry.

But now I’ve to read a lot. Everything changed!