This is an aspect, but not the only one
[troll mode off]
Donât tell us that itâs a lack of sysadmin
Maybe the community should raise funds to host their wiki
In another words : Give us a lever and a place to stand, and we will move the world.
Thanks davidep, I will answer to your invitation later, I need to think about a billion stuffs before, did I never speak about freedom and sustainable development ways.
concerning a community wiki I tried to involve the community, maybe it was to soon â Nethserver wiki Howto and I started to do some doc documentation [Stephdl Repository]
Thatâs not fair @stephdl
Itâs not a money problem, for me, itâs more a technical problem. We can build up, pay and maintain the host right here and right now, but Iâd like to look ahead, keeping a good integration with Discourse and trying to not thrown effort away
What do you think about something like this?
Is it doable?
If you accept some suggestions.
The first page of our community is not the perfect way for a good immersion.
I would prefer something like this:
https://yunohost.org/#/docs_en
A page like this give a better orientation for the newcomer.
And looking yet YunohostâŠThey use Simone:
https://github.com/Kloadut/Simonec
I missed the point why to use github and dokuwiki together, dokuwiki is the way to go, yes, but it can track versions alone and the backup is simple since there is no databaseâŠfetch the folder in a tar.gz each hour/day and it is done.
Why doing simple when you can do it difficult
Edit : Others have thought before me, if discourse can be used as a wiki â https://talk.hackspace.ca/t/can-we-just-use-talk-as-our-wiki-instead-of-dokuwiki/1233/2
In short : NO
Edit2 : there is no plugin to authenticate dokuwiki through discourse, time to develop one.
Thanks for the interesting discussion, good points are explained there.
Maybe using the Github authentication could be simpler:
https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:oauth
Markdown plugin is needed too, so we can copy/paste howtos born here on community or drafts extracted from posts
This looks better supported:
https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:markdowku
BRRRRRRR
Please @zamboni, could you explain what do you mean with BRRR ?
Iâm going to point out that it could be offensive to who are trying to debate here, please always provide reasoned counter-arguments that improve the conversation
I donât like discourse
I think a REAL wiki is really needed
I think that copy and paste from here to there is a bad thing
I think that using external services is not a good idea (BTW, what if tomorrow the hoster of this discourse instance will close? it already happened)
HTH
And I add: someone here, a VERY experienced and propositive user, already told all of it since the beginning⊠and I see heâs getting more frustrated (as I am)
You donât like many things man, every time, and imho that approach isnât constructive.
Thatâs the discussion, baby. Donât you like it?
Be the change you want to see in the world
well⊠AFAICT, since the beginning of this âcommunityâ site many users ask for a REAL wiki andfor documentationâŠ
since the community wants such a feature (and all of us can see the daily requests for documentation improvement), why thereâs no wiki?
maybe my approach is not constructive, but it seems that what community wants is not what community hasâŠ
My 2cents: letâs use redmine wiki.
Edit: we already have it in place and itâs working (and we used it).
âŠuntil we moved the documentation to ReadTheDocs! Since that time I donât see any big contribution to the wiki on Redmine, whilst ReadTheDocs was expanded a lot with Pull Requests from GitHub. yes, I think it can be enhanced further, however as @alefattorini said and I agree with him, this is the right way to collaborate with the documentation easing the contribution from everyone.
I second this.
We already have everything, we have user accounts in place, we will have only one place for everything, we can begin to write docs NOW.
When we will find the perfect wiki, we will move contents there.
Iâd also like to modify the landing page of www.nethserver.org according to Jimâs suggestions.
I just wrote my first page, see Contribution sections here: