Some questions:
How will affect this decision, the SOGo integration in NS?
It’s too early to put this question?
Let’s say that NS will not support SOGo anymore.
Will remain WebTop 4 and Roundcube.
WebTop 4 can be integrated with Samba AD but has some lack regarding Active Sync (“Active Sync protocol is supported only on Android and iOS devices. Outlook is not supported. Mail synchronization is currently not supported.”).
If you are following the SOGo users mailinglist, you might have seen the whole discussion. Already people stepped forward to take over the creation of packages for several different distros. I hope the CentOS (6.x and 7) will be available through this too. Or should ‘we’, as a community decide to create those packages ourselves (maybe because of security risks)??
That’s a hard move by SOGo guys, I hope they know what they’re doing
Regarding NethServer, building SOGo rpm packages starting from their source isn’t so easy AFAIK
Nethesis would like to support WebTop and not SOGo on the 7 version, SOGo is still on NethServer but modules have moved on Nethforge and we’re looking for new maintainers. Who wants to step up?
Honestly, I was one of the biggest SOGo fans in the past, I made the first integration and first neth packages by myself, but now I think that new ways were opened and we can work very close to the Webtop dev team (news and demo about new version soon!) in order to build a great groupware, together!
So if I understood well, the nightly build packages will still be available from inverse.
The question will be: are those production proof, and do we want to risk the situation again? Maybe inverse will decide to block the nightly build repo’s too somewehere in the future.
It would be nice if there will be a CentOS repo with rpm packages that has enough credibility to use for a production stable environment.
Good news! I think we could try to test these RPMs, but as @dnutan said, the effort should be done by the community (of course we are willing to help!) since WebTop will be the “official” groupware.
I know WebTop 5 is almost in beta stages, and I would like to hear more from WebTop developers. @gabriele_bulfon@raffaele_fullone share with us your news: I think this is a really great opportunity to start testing the new release!
Can we access the new release and build testing RPMs? Is there a place where we can follow the development and report issue? Share your work guys
Already is
There is also Kolab, but all these groupware have a full stack (groupware + mail server) and we would like to keep working with dovecot and postfix since both have been proven rock solid.
Hi everybody,
first I would like @GG_jr to help us understand what are the lacks regarding ActiveSync.
We have plenty of users and devices running on it on our cloud platform.
Let us know and we will check if we can fix any issue you may have encountered.
Now, about Webtop 5, at the moment it is more an alpha than a beta, but we’re working hard to reach a good usable state that will allow us to publish the demo to the community soon and receive all your valuable feedback.
As @giacomo already said we have consider all these groupware (zimbra and others…) in the past, we have concluded that they force us to get rid of all mailserver + accounting stack and it is unacceptable.
Oh come on guys!
Here you will find a lot of friends eager to test your work We love alpha!
Be safe!
If what is written there is true, there are issues when Windows Phones are used and of course, MS Outlook.
Because this topic is about SOGo, I tell you that with SOGo I have no issues with BB, WP, Android, iOS devices, MS Outlook, Thundrebird, regarding ActiveSync.
Thanks Gabriel,
you’re right that documentation is still poor, and Sonicle site has even less info than Nethesis site…we’re working on this.
About Active Sync support, actually there should be no difference from others, as everyone is using ZPush for this. The reason we decided with Nethesis to declare a no support for Outlook, is that it just don’t work really well with ZPush, because Outlook expects a more complete protocol that is the Exchange protocol, while ZPush is just Active Sync only (some kind of subset of Exchange).
So, just expect to have Active Sync on Webtop to behave same as any other ZPush based solution, where not everybody wants to declare that it won’t work 100%.
Windows Phones are even worse…I really hope they’re quickly going to disappear from the market.
Hello Gabriele,
Thank you for your response and for the news about ActiveSync.
I look forward to test WebTop on NS7b1.
Unfortunately, I’m in vacation now and I cannot to test as I want, but I will try.
I will keep you, all of you, informed about my tests and I will ask for help, if needed.
BR,
Gabriel
PS:
Regarding WP, opinions are divided and not always for good reasons.
Generally speaking, those who use Linux, are using Android or iOS and hate MS Windows and all it is related to MS. Sorry, M$ or even M$$!
WP market share is about 2% and it seems that M$ will abandon it in favour of a “customized” M$ android distro… in any case, I can’t se any reason to support WP at all.
After last opinions, the market share for wp it seems to be less than 1% ( Newsroom, Announcements and Media Contacts | Gartner ).
Even that, I cannot tell to our customers to not use WP, or worse, to change their phones, because the market share is less than 1% and there is no reason to support them, as email service provider.
We are not Microsoft (M$$$$$) and we cannot afford to lose our clients.
We provide to our customers full services for all kinds of equipment they have and we will continue to do so, no matter what solutions we will use (in this case, NS with WebTop, NS with SOGo, NS with Roundcube, Zentyal with SOGo, iRedMail, …).
I’m sure you know the slogan that guide any service provider, especially as there is competition: The customer is always right! (in romanian: Our customer, our master!)