I feel left behind

[pike (Michael Kicks)]

@PCXLan.es

The only thing I see in the forum about NS8 are errors and more errors. Bugs and more bugs. A migration tool, which causes problems. Migration that, on the other hand, depends on which applications will not be able to be migrated, since NS8 is not NS7…

You’re not the only one. I figured out something similar…

@pike

Project is not in final state
I stopped considering NS as viable platform several months ago, because the project is different and both roles (firewall and server) currently are note satisfactory to me. I was not comfortable starting on both roles for new projects because of the short support time for NS7 and not mature enough status of NS8.
This will be still unsatisfactory to me when final? I don’t know, yet. However I won’t go full NS8 at release date, not willing to be a beta tester for at least 6 months. Probably “beta tester” will feel bitter for developers, however the paradigm shift from Module/service to Module/containter is not a version upgrade, is a new product. It’s understandable that will take more time to rewire, solve, fix issues and missing pieces.

and probably @Andy_Wismer forgot that.

Despite the commercial number 8 put for version, this is more like a 1.0 version product now. IMO currently closer to 0.8 considering bug reports and support requests I see here (not taking tour to Trello, actually).

@PCXLan.es

Furthermore, until now, I had everything I needed on a single server.

I can only say… Which persons would go back to Windows 7, Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger or SLED 12? Or even… Slackware 14? Even 32 bit?
Beside some “incorrect details” into the page linked from alefattorini about “why container is better” (disk space is way more overhead in containers compared to single servers, virtual or not) currently container are common (sometimes… the only) way some products are delivered to customers/market. Allowing also easier major version changes of product or underlying components. Sometimes a container might be… disposable from the beginning.

Without underlying “good enough” distro to keep evolving SMEServer/NethServer, taking the burden risking to be left back as a market-ready alternative (it’s not ready yet but whathever) was far from ideal.

I’ve been critic with this decision and still I am now, but beside all the downsides (more than once were rebutted as “not so important” from dev team) I see the sense of that.
Luckily, all softwares on NS7 are more or less GPL with source available. It will not be fast and easy export data to other installations, but still possible thanks to dev documentation of NS7 and documentation of the provided package/module.
If at the end of the september (personal and probably wrong evaluated time) NS8 will be closer to 1.0 Beta that now is probably the migration process will be 98% of scenarios working flawlessly