Doubts about NS8

The fact that it runs just as well on Debian doesn’t count as independence?

Or, you know, you–Beta2 does now support backing up to any S3-compatible provider, which can be you using Minio. There’s no need to involve any third party if you don’t want to. But yes, you are still using that protocol if that bothers you.

Agree that cert management should support wildcard certs, which would mean supporting DNS validation. But, of course, this isn’t present in NS7 either, so you wouldn’t be losing anything in this regard.

Both of these would depend almost entirely on the available bandwidth between the server and its backup host–these questions can’t be meaningfully answered, as you surely know. But how is this different from NS7? Yes, it’s using a different protocol. So what? In what meaningful way does that affect any of these things?

Nobody’s saying you have to; this is apparently based on your incorrect assumption that S3-compatible backup means you must use a cloud provider.

Honestly, this reminds me of your objections here: Container security on NS8. Like in that topic, you’re being very vague about your concerns, and where you are being specific, you’re largely incorrect. So I’ll ask you again, as I and others asked you there: what, specifically, are your concerns? And in what way do you think that things are worse under NS8 than under NS7? Or, if you don’t think NS7 is a valid comparison, what are you comparing it to, and why do you think that’s a more valid comparison?

This isn’t about me being a NS8 fanboi; there are lots of things I’m unsure about myself. But most of these objections just seem, frankly, silly, if not bordering on FUD.