Better try to implement Air-print and AFP and make a good stuff , either speak so much
Hi Jim,
IMO, like I said before in other post, NS could be a very good AiO product.
Also, can be improved (Nethserver future version 7).
As NS Team said for many times, NethServer must be keeped simple as much as possible (I think this is to work safe, not for functions).
But personally, I donāt know a product so complex as you want (Disk Management feature request, Did you know Yunohost?, and I think the list may continue) to work well. And moreover, a free product.
Maybe for this reason also Zentyal have reduced the functions in the last version.
Like I said before in this Forum, I donāt want to keep all eggs in the same basket.
In this moment Iām thinking at two scenarios to use NS (very short description):
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NS act as AiO ( UTM + Mail Server + Web Server) with two zones, RED and GREEN, or three zones RED, GREEN and BLUE, for Home and Small (very small) Business.
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NS act as UTM with four zones:
a. RED
b. ORANGE - another NS act as Mail Server and maybe as Web Server
c. BLUE - wireless for guests
d. GREEN:
d.1. NS as PDC & File sharing;
d.2. NS as PDC with FreeNAS as Storage & File sharing;
d.3. Zentyal as PDC / AD controlled by RSAT & File sharing;
d.4. Zentyal as PDC / AD controlled by RSAT with FreeNAS as Storage & File sharing;
Many other applications can be added to an Information System, but IMHO, in the right place.
Of course, everything I said above can be criticized, improved, rejected or trashed.
I believe a web GUI menu for disk management would be a great feature to have. It pains me to say it but look how easy it is to manage disks and partitions on any M$ server or client OS including SBS. The same can be said for GUI driven Linux systems.
I understand NS needs to stay a focused product which is slimlined and best of breed.
Taking what can be a daunting task that can kill your whole server and wrap it with a clear,easy to use GUI shows great product maturity.
Having features that no other distro in this market space has is pioneering, innovation and a massive value add. Something others distros will either follow, or fall behind.
I have every faith in the NS team getting the balance right between ease of use and the warnings needed to help the admin make an informed decision when managing disks
Yes, homeusers can have this features with windows, Mac os x , Linux and Bsd system with any kind od desktop environmentā¦ And a Nethserverās sysadmin not!?! Itās cruel
This is a good perspective, like it. What about a cost-benefit analysis?
Can we try to draft the new disk management feature? As @filippo_carletti said above?
We should choose minimum targets for a first implementation, which these goals could be?
you used the magic word: desktop environment
NS is not a desktop distro, nor need a monitor, a keyboard or mouseā¦ it can sit thousand miles from you
it seems we give very different meaning to the word āsysadminā
in any case, I hope/guess that the disk management will be a plugin, an optional oneā¦ I wonāt use it, I donāt need itā¦ all IMVHO
These modules can be a good inspiration:
Thatās a good example but itās too generic! As I said we canāt have all these features.
We should choose minimum targets for a first implementation, which these goals could be?
What could be enough to start?
The ideal things is to have all theses things.
If we must go step by step, I think we must go for the Logical Volume Management and the disk partition tool. that can do the same things as the CentOS installation tools.
For the rest, naturally in other step, we will need the mount and unmount tool, for a local filesystem and perhaps a network file systemā¦
we are talking about two different UIā¦ NS UI is a web UIā¦
Yesā¦
Like webmin,
Like Freenas,
Like Nas4free,
Like OpenMediaVaultā¦
Take a look at theses systems
I know there are many web UI out there that can help people to manage their storageā¦
read all my posts in this topicā¦ (even) in this forum there are guys that donāt know how their lan works, what is a dhcp and so onā¦ do you really think itās a smart idea to give them direct access to disk/data? really?
NIMB
in any case, vox populi, vox dei (Cit.)
If Jim continues to want (unabated) Disk Management, could I wish (unabated) to have improvements to Email Server (Mailgraph, AWstats, ā¦), Proxy (Web, POP3, SMTP, ā¦), Filter (Email, Web, GeoIP, ā¦), Backup, GUI, Reverse Proxy, ā¦ and to other modules/packages?
Why not?
But, IMHO, everything what is related to NS not to the āHostā (CentOS).
Take a look here:
http://www.openmediavault.org/?p=354
Look at this too:
This Amahi āDisk Wizardā is wery sexy
I would like to pump up this idea for our newcomers
To resume, with this Disk Managmemt feature, it will be easier to manage the always growing storages need.
With a couple of other existing services ( avahi / afp / owncloud ), Nethserver could easely become a NAS ( manage storage, organize data, share data)
Thatās a good idea but it looks hard to develop and currently itās not planned, how can we address big feature like this?
But if Iām well understand, Cockpict is a tool for checking or controllingā¦ Not a configuring tool.
Sometime, I have the not so crazy idea to make NetServer and Rockstor convergingā¦