WebTop groupware on NethServer

i’ve installed webtop: first from the loginpage i cannot choose domain (they are not display) , second it seems that there isn’t an “admin” account from which i can setup a set of rules for all the users(but i can be wrong) an than users have only to choose some basic features like layout , display name etc…

edit: hint give the opportunity to join to the cloud section nethserver folder(like owncloud) … how can i import contacts?(ok found it…only csv? in Sogo you can export only ldif)

Given a server named mail.mydomain.com, users can access the web interface with a user name like this: user@mydomain.com

There is also an administrator user, credentials are: admin/admin.

Here ends my application knowledge :smiley:

ok admin works :smiley:

Maybe @gabriele_bulfon have something on this?

Hi,

we have faced the problem of transferring contacts from ldif export sometime ago.
Looks like both Sogo and Thunderbird exports ldif only.
Webtop currently supports import from the more common vcard export formats (done by both gmail and outlook).
We could not find any software able to convert properly from ldif to vcard, but you may try yourself and maybe
find one?
In any case, we’re considering to implement ldif import into webtop directly, in the near future

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Released the first stable release of WebTop 4.
The package is already available inside the master mirror and will be soon synced to all other mirrors.

Documentation: http://docs.nethserver.org/en/latest/webtop4.html

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I assume that many potential users of WebTop on Nethserver would be currently using MS Outlook.
In order to migrate these users it would be necessary to transfer across their mail, contacts and calendar. Am I correct in assuming that there is no direct pst file import?
If not the the post below gives a great solution to the mail transfer
[http://community.nethserver.org/t/nethserver-for-dummies-email-server/506]

In relation to contacts it could be time consuming to go to each user in a typical school or office to export all their contacts in csv file to import to WebTop.
Is there a better way?
How can Calendar items be imported to WebTop?

In order for WebTop on Nethserver to gain users, an easy way to migrate from Outlook / Exchange is (in my view) important.
Tom

AFAIK, we have a working procedure that automates import of mail, calendar and contacts from the outlook .pst file.

That is good news. I would like to test that procedure. Is it available and is it documented anywhere?
Tom

Yes:http://docs.nethserver.org/en/latest/webtop4.html#importing-data-from-sogo

I also know @lucag and @nethcman have a testing script for PST import. Can you share it?

Thanks for the link showing how to get calendars and contacts from SoGo.
Is there a method to get from pst to SoGo? If so, then it could be a 2 step process to come from pst to WebTop.
The script to come directly from pst to WebTop would be very useful.
As WebTop has the look and feel of Outlook is seems to be aimed at getting Outlook users to try WebTop. If they can’t migrate their data they can’t use Webtop.

If an Outlook client could be connected to Nethserver then data could be imported or just copied and pasted simply.
This approach is possible in Zarafa and Zentyal both of which I have used.
If Nethserver can have good methods of importing mail, calendar and contacts from Exchange/Outlook then the Groupware part of it would be hugely attractive to community organisations and small business.
Tom

you could just use outlook as an imap client and copy/paste emails, but in my experience it’s just a PITA…

Outlook is a M$ client, using proprietary protocols… Zentyal and Zarafa are exchange replacement, NS is not nor SOGo is…

finally, pst files must be treated with gloves because they’re quite “unstable”, expecially when they’re quite big

I agree with the points you make. I have tried for many years to get people and companies I know to move from proprietary protocols and products to free and open source software.
The question I am frequently asked is, can they migrate their data (and also, if the they are unhappy later, can they export their data from the open source product they have chosen).

I also realize that NS and SoGo is not a direct Exchange replacement in the sense of Outlook connectivity, but it does offer the same functionality and could replace Exchange if users used a web client such as SoGo or WebTop (or Thunderbird and Lightening). In fairness to Outlook it does offer many ways of exporting data as well as pst files. However if we want open source groupware to get a greater “market share”, data import /export, in my view, needs to be simple and reliable.
I suspect that many installations of open source servers and group-ware are in places that are trying to escape vendor lock-in and high licensing costs. Many such places have lots of historical data that need to be migrated.
Just my thoughts,
Tom

I agree with you @Tom, it is important to have the ability to import historical data to facilitate migration :wink:

I just posted a HowTo be tested for the export of email, contacts and calendars from .pst files to Nethserver / Webtop: HowTo for Import PST to Nethserver/Webtop

Merry Christmas :grinning:

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I was off-line for the last while (enjoying Christmas!).
Thanks for the links to the HowTo. I will get my hands on a few pst files in the next week or so and try the process.
Tom

Sure @Tom I hope you have a Merry Christmas past :yum:
Let me know how you are and if you have suggestions for improving the scripts.
Thanks for your interest !

@tom we can move forward with this discussion here:

Perfect. I have been doing some testing on data transfer from different
systems and servers.
At the moment, I use a Raspberry Pi as my home server. It has been running
for a few years and has proved very reliable. At the moment it is running
Arch Linux and I am using Zarafa for groupware. I use web access in
Firefox and also have active sync to Iphone and Android. It all works very
well.
Just in the last few days I succeeded in connecting to it from Outlook 2013
using active sync.
I saved my data on the windows machine in a pst file.
Just today I have also got Outlook to connect to NethServer also using
active sync protocol.
I imported pst and copied the data to Nethserver /SoGo (as the default
syncs with SoGo)
The Contacts worked OK but Mail and Calendar did not. Much of this (I
think ) related to the limitations of the Outlook 2013 implementation of
active sync.

I will try your scripts shortly and see if I can import into WebTop.
My pst is about 8 Mb ( i think) and has about 1000 contacts 500 Calendar
items and 100 mails.
I will post how I get on in the forum.

Regards,
Tom

Activesync support for Outlook 2013 isn’t very stable, works better with mobile devices.