Moving from office365 to NethServer at school

Hi everybody, and thank you all for the suggestions.

With regards to the 365 choice, I must clarify that, since we are a non-profit organization, we benefit a free version of 365. I really doubt that there are any cloud collaboration services (paid or free) better than Microsoft’s one and, being it totally free, it was a no brainer choice. Don’t forget that a private cloud means infrastructure, skills and many things that can go wrong (backups, configurations, single point of failures…).
At the moment, the only infrastructure we run is a couple of internet connections, 4 switches and 10 access points.
With regards to the PCs, we mainly use tablets (Android based) connected to wifi video projectors in the classrooms. Anyway, most of the educational programs are still Windows based (and needs a CD too…), so we have some Microsoft Surface in case of needs.
Hope that now everything could be more clear.
M.

Interesting and scaring at the same time
Robb… you said “‘advisors’ that lobby for the big ict companies and keep the schools in a vendor lock-in.”… here they are…

Interestingly, in the U.S., non-profit schools are not eligible for 365 non-profit programs, just academic volume licensing.

It is the same in france…look at the shark …a recent agreement in France between the minister of education and Microsoft

the first dose of drug is always free :smile:

sorry and welcome @tramamo, I’m OT

I agree… schools should never use closed source sw… pupils just need to know what is a word processor and how to use it…

M$ is trying to gain users just giving them their sw for free… sad and scaring…

Not just MS, Apple has been doing it for years, Google just started a couple of years ago.

The EFF just filed a complaint with the FTC about violations of student privacy laws.
One of the largest school districts in the country just cancelled a huge contract with Apple because shenanigans came to light.

Welcome to humanity, the struggle is real.

Hi,

Use LibreOffice or OpenOffice.
And put the docs and sheets in an share folder in the Nethserver instance.

There’s alternatives to GAFAM ( Google, Apple, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft)
https://degooglisons-internet.org/ :smiley:

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@alessio: OP doesn’t want to move from office365… he just want not to use windows as a server and to give the right priority to traffic directed to office365… did I miss anything? :slight_smile:

True, but the topic is split off so we can take the discussion broader.

@Jim: nice option to create online documents online. I didn’t know framasoft yet. Next thing would be, is to have a webbased officesuite in our own hands, like for example owncloud as an alternative for dropbox …

The Office365 and Googledoc alternative is based on Etherpad and Ethercalc

Too bad it is java based… ok, it makes it cross platform, but I wish devs would use other ways to create applications… Especially with webbased applications, there should be no need to use java.

@robb
As for cloud service try to use Group-office it real amazing product.
As for online documents use ICLOUD

Group-office looks really nice. Too bad it is not completely open source…
And Icloud?.. NoooooooS… I am allergic to apples… :stuck_out_tongue:

I’d use this before Office 365 any day:
https://apps.owncloud.com/content/show.php/LibreOffice+Online?content=174455

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That’d be really cool, if NS supported it!

Owncloud already is supported with NS right? Whould it be a big issue to make LOOL available?
I see that there also is a client component. That might be a problem since it needs to be installed and/or controlled by the sysadmin. Maybe some repository from where that package can be pushed to clients?

We need 8.0 at least so it’s unfortunately postponed to NS7

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I’m now more and more convinced that we should write down a blog post about this discussion.
Why moving from office366 to NethServer at school? Would anyone like to tackle this challenge? I can help out

This discussions have no end. Well, i think that Nethserver works for some Companies very good, and i think that they schould support projects like this with spending some, Money, Hardware, Knowledge.When Teachers asking if Nethserver, Owncloud and so on, works like Office 365 , they schould really just stay there, at M$.NO it does NOT.Linux is not Microsoft and Microsoft is not Linux.If you just search for an free alternatives, you are very wrong here, you’ll never find it in Open Source, and Open Source means not FREE.Some people just really don’t understand.This Programmers that gave us Nethserver must pay also their bills, they don’t get nothing for free.Maybe Office 365 :joy: ???
MS, Apple, Google, they just want your money, nothing works there perfectly, and that’s why Teacher schould teach , and be neutral, and don’t isnatll as hobby “one” Server at school, when they don’t understand what they accually want. This disscussions are just boring, and especially from People that didn’t understand the difference between Open Source and Free.Yes, MS, Google and Apple gives you much for free, but takes also loooooot from you.

THX

Hi @stojovski
Thnx for adding to this discussion. I am particularly interested in getting NethServer (and opensource) to educational environments. I will have my talk at NethServer Conference in September in Italy about this topic.

We are over a year further in this discussion and in the meantime webbased libreoffice has matured a lot. It would be great to have this available out of the box in NethServer-NextCloud. Then you have Samba4 account provider with NextCloud and Libreoffice online/Collabora/… integration.

My point is, that if this is not available, schools will not even consider choosing for opensource or NethServer.

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